This thing is garbage. Out of the box it looks and feels good. Install is fairly straight forward. About 50 miles into the first ride the bottle holder assembly fell off. The screws that should have been loctite and torqued from the factory loosened up and it fell off. Not a problem new hardware and got it fixed. Thought of it as my own fault for not checking. Second ride got rained on, nothing terrible but for sure got wet and then the sun came out. The “leather” of this bag wrinkled and the edges have curled to the point the flap doesn’t sit flat anymore. Save your money and buy the good one.